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		<description><![CDATA[Some additional thoughts on Susan Mernit’s session on the web and sexuality at Gnomedex &#8212; I think that having what I would call naked and unashamed conversations (to modify a phrase) about sex in blogs, etc. is a really compelling way to provoke ourselves into talking about important stuff in our face to face relationships. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">Some additional thoughts on Susan Mernit’s session on <a href="http://blogher.org/node/6871">the web and sexuality</a> at <a href="http://gnomedex.com/">Gnomedex</a> &#8212; I think that having what I would call naked and unashamed conversations (to modify a <a href="http://redcouch.typepad.com/">phrase</a>) about sex in blogs, etc. is a really compelling way to provoke ourselves into talking about important stuff in our face to face relationships.</p>

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<p>There are so many instincts that tell us to not talk about anything that may leave us exposed and venerable &#8212; and yet, when we do that, especially in an online context, so many cool things happen (in my experience anyway).</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Whether it’s discussing <a href="http://zugbot.com/sex-at-gnomedex-the-luxurious-use-of-the-f-bomb-in-church/">frank and aggressive sex</a> in the context of marriage or talking through the <a href="http://www.thispile.com/archives/category/until-death-do-us-part-and-to-the-death-it-will-be/">ups and downs</a> of your relationships or <a href="http://www.thispile.com/archives/category/depression/">working through</a> depression &#8212; whenever I take the figleaf away for a moment (or my beautiful wife does),  people come out of the woodwork to say the same thing, over and over &#8211;</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Me too.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Two powerful little words that aren’t technology words &#8212; no Web 2.0 &#8212; no huge business plan to take over the world (or save it).</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Two words that are just, well, human &#8212; and really powerful.</p>

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		<title>Sex at Gnomedex (the luxurious use of the F-Bomb in church)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Am looking forward to participating in Susan Mernit&#8217;s &#8216;Sex &#38; Longing &#38; Web 2.0&#8216; session at Gnomedex today. Hope to read th risqu&#233; and beautifully provocative poem &#8216;Hey You&#8217; by Linford Detweiler of Over the Rhine that I posted to a publicly viewable church bulletin board back in 2001 &#8212; an action that played a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am looking forward to participating in Susan Mernit&#8217;s &#8216;<a href="http://blogher.org/node/6871">Sex &amp; Longing &amp; Web 2.0</a>&#8216; session at <a href="http://gnomedex.com/">Gnomedex</a> today.</p>

<p>Hope to read th risqu&eacute; and beautifully provocative poem &lsquo;<a href="http://www.overtherhine.com/words/writingslinford/blue/21.html">Hey You</a>&rsquo; by Linford Detweiler of <a href="http://www.overtherhine.com/">Over the Rhine</a> that I posted to a publicly viewable church bulletin board back in 2001 &#8212; an action that played a part in the chain of events that I call &lsquo;the wooing <a href="http://thispile.com/">my beautiful wife Jen</a>&rsquo;.</p>

<p>Text is below &#8212; it&rsquo;s got a luxurious use of F-bombs &#8212; you&rsquo;ve been warned &#8212; now take a quick read while nobody&rsquo;s looking.</p>

<blockquote><strong>Hey You</strong><br />
by Linford Detweiler<br />
<br />
Fuck me, she says,<br />
And it&#8217;s not an exclamation<br />
It&#8217;s a plea<br />
<br />
Fuck me feels different<br />
In the marriage bed<br />
It&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s forbidden<br />
<br />
Fuck can be such a hateful word<br />
But she&#8217;s in love<br />
Trying on the name wife for size<br />
<br />
Fuck me sort of suits her<br />
She loves to laugh<br />
And she wants something carefree and crude<br />
<br />
Fuck me and all of a sudden it&#8217;s a playful prayer<br />
We both still want to do something good for the world<br />
We both believe in miracles<br />
<br />
Fuck me and there are better words for it<br />
We both know<br />
But the way she says it makes you wonder<br />
<br />
Fuck me please I&#8217;m soppy and smooth<br />
The world is disappearing<br />
And it&#8217;s not so much the please it&#8217;s the possibility:<br />
<br />
It&#8217;s the possibility<br />
That this life is going to break us into pieces<br />
Knock us reeling and silly with painful joy<br />
<br />
And the word fuck is suddenly a tiny praise chorus<br />
A slap happy swing at a tipsy God<br />
The joke&#8217;s on us<br />
<br />
And this is our sweet redeemer<br />
Looking down on a tangle of man and wife<br />
A happily shipwrecked bed<br />
<br />
It&#8217;s not like he hasn&#8217;t seen it before<br />
But he&#8217;s even blessed a dirty word<br />
Thank you Lord<br />
<br />
. . .<br />
copyright 2000, Linford Detweiler</blockquote>
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