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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 01:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight is the 6th wedding anniversary for Jen and I. I pulled out a copy of my wedding vows to her to read. A small reminder of where we&#8217;ve been and how God has been framing our journey since the early days. When she misted up as I finished, I turned and said, &#8220;Did my [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight is the 6th wedding anniversary for Jen and I. I pulled out a copy of my wedding vows to her to read. A small reminder of where we&#8217;ve been and how God has been framing our journey since the early days.</p>

<p>When she misted up as I finished, I turned and said, &#8220;Did my poetry to you make you cry?&#8221;</p>

<p>To which she said, sniff, sniff, &#8220;I have allergies.&#8221;</p>

<p>In the immortal words of the 77&#8242;s, <a href="http://www.77s.com/lyrics_itsforyou/thisisthewayloveis.html">this is the way love is</a>.</p>

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<p>Jennifer &#8211;</p>

<p>Before God, our community, our family, I covenant with you &#8212; to be your husband. As Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, I vow to love you as my wife and give myself up for you.</p>

<p>I covenant to love you with the deep, wide, sustaining, mysterious, knowable love of Christ &#8211;</p>

<p>A love that is bold and broken
A love that is graceful and firm
A love that encourages and challenges 
A love that listens and speaks and listens and speaks and listens and speaks and listens&#8230;</p>

<p>I vow to trust in God for our provision while being diligent to provide for you and our family with the resources God has trusted me with. I welcome the responsibility of leading and pastoring our family in the truth of Christ &#8212; His Word, His Promises, His Practicalities.</p>

<p>I covenant &#8211;</p>

<p>To repent when I sin against you.
To be slow to anger when you sin against me
To teach the truth I have known
To be teachable where I have a lot to learn</p>

<p>I covenant &#8211;</p>

<p>To ask your forgiveness when my pride wounds you
And to be quick to forgive you when you need to be forgiven
To be obedient to God &#8212; even when it is not convenient, even when it is not expedient</p>

<p>I vow to never leave you, nor forsake you. To care for, protect, honor, and love you for the rest of my life. I thank God, you, our community, our family, for the blessing you are to my life.</p>

<p>I have impatiently grumbled to God for many seasons as to what my provision  would look like. On this, our wedding night, I thank God for you, my provision, and I must say before this gathering that, you look good.</p>

<p>I look forward, as husband and wife, to being nourished by God’s Joy <a href="http://zugbot.com/she-wants-to-know/">through famine into laughter</a>.</p>
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		<title>&#8216;Me Too&#8217; Conversations</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bryanzug</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some additional thoughts on Susan Mernit’s session on the web and sexuality at Gnomedex &#8212; I think that having what I would call naked and unashamed conversations (to modify a phrase) about sex in blogs, etc. is a really compelling way to provoke ourselves into talking about important stuff in our face to face relationships. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">Some additional thoughts on Susan Mernit’s session on <a href="http://blogher.org/node/6871">the web and sexuality</a> at <a href="http://gnomedex.com/">Gnomedex</a> &#8212; I think that having what I would call naked and unashamed conversations (to modify a <a href="http://redcouch.typepad.com/">phrase</a>) about sex in blogs, etc. is a really compelling way to provoke ourselves into talking about important stuff in our face to face relationships.</p>

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<p>There are so many instincts that tell us to not talk about anything that may leave us exposed and venerable &#8212; and yet, when we do that, especially in an online context, so many cool things happen (in my experience anyway).</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Whether it’s discussing <a href="http://zugbot.com/sex-at-gnomedex-the-luxurious-use-of-the-f-bomb-in-church/">frank and aggressive sex</a> in the context of marriage or talking through the <a href="http://www.thispile.com/archives/category/until-death-do-us-part-and-to-the-death-it-will-be/">ups and downs</a> of your relationships or <a href="http://www.thispile.com/archives/category/depression/">working through</a> depression &#8212; whenever I take the figleaf away for a moment (or my beautiful wife does),  people come out of the woodwork to say the same thing, over and over &#8211;</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Me too.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Two powerful little words that aren’t technology words &#8212; no Web 2.0 &#8212; no huge business plan to take over the world (or save it).</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Two words that are just, well, human &#8212; and really powerful.</p>

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		<title>She Wants to Know&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bryanzug</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Related to the previous post about &#8216;Sex at Gnomedex&#8216; &#8212; also just noticed that I&#8217;d never reposted the poem I wrote to propose to Jen after switching over to a blog format. Here is is &#8212; rigns as true today as it did when I penned it in 2001. She Want&#8217;s to Know&#8230; by Bryan [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related to the previous post about &#8216;<a href="http://zugbot.com/sex-at-gnomedex-the-luxurious-use-of-the-f-bomb-in-church/">Sex at Gnomedex</a>&#8216; &#8212; also just noticed that I&#8217;d never reposted the poem I wrote to propose to <a href="http://thispile.com/">Jen</a> after switching over to a blog format. Here is is &#8212; rigns as true today as it did when I penned it in 2001.</p>

<blockquote><strong>She Want&#8217;s to Know&#8230; </strong><br />
by Bryan Zug<br />
<br />
The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again &#8212; then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.<br />
<br />
- &#8211; -<br />
<br />
this has always been here<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;though we are just now uncovering it<br />
<br />
this has always been here<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;though we are just now discovering it<br />
<br />
- &#8211; -<br />
<br />
she has just asked me<br />
how i know<br />
that she is the one<br />
<br />
and there is so much to say about the past and the future and the moment unfolding before us &#8212; sitting across a table eating Saturday morning eggs at the breakfast pub on 45th and Stone<br />
<br />
she wants to know<br />
the method of my surety &#8211;<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;how I have discerned<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;its measure is not madness<br />
<br />
and my answer is simply this &#8211;<br />
i know because i have chosen.<br />
<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;chosen to dive for these pearls<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;chosen to dig for this treasure<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;chosen to love her first<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and last<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and among<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;all that lies in this middle<br />
<br />
and make no mistake<br />
there is much that lies in this middle &#8211;<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;split tongue undertones<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;of compatibilities?<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;too soons?<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and happily ever afters?<br />
<br />
i will push these half-truths into full light<br />
and say plainly &#8211;<br />
<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;we are not compatible &#8211;<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;we are wicked<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and only by Grace made able<br />
<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;we are not going to live &#8220;happily&#8221; ever after &#8211;<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;we will be nourished by Joy,<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;through famine into laughter<br />
<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;we will be blessed in restful wrest &#8211;<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a marriage bed of ordered mess<br />
<br />
i have seen Salvation<br />
i know what Covenant looks like<br />
i testify on the sapphire foundation of Surety &#8211;<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;i love because He first loved me<br />
<br />
- &#8211; -<br />
<br />
this has always been here<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;though we are just now uncovering it<br />
<br />
this has always been here<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;though we are just now discovering it<br />
<br />
- &#8211; -<br />
<br />
&#8220;Though the mountains be shaken and the hills be removed, yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken nor my covenant of peace be removed,&#8221; says the LORD, who has compassion on you.<br />
<br />
&#8220;O afflicted city, lashed by storms and not comforted, I will build you with stones of turquoise, your foundations with sapphires. I will make your battlements of rubies, your gates of sparkling jewels, and all your walls of precious stones.&#8221;</blockquote>
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		<title>Sex at Gnomedex (the luxurious use of the F-Bomb in church)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bryanzug</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Am looking forward to participating in Susan Mernit&#8217;s &#8216;Sex &#38; Longing &#38; Web 2.0&#8216; session at Gnomedex today. Hope to read th risqu&#233; and beautifully provocative poem &#8216;Hey You&#8217; by Linford Detweiler of Over the Rhine that I posted to a publicly viewable church bulletin board back in 2001 &#8212; an action that played a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am looking forward to participating in Susan Mernit&#8217;s &#8216;<a href="http://blogher.org/node/6871">Sex &amp; Longing &amp; Web 2.0</a>&#8216; session at <a href="http://gnomedex.com/">Gnomedex</a> today.</p>

<p>Hope to read th risqu&eacute; and beautifully provocative poem &lsquo;<a href="http://www.overtherhine.com/words/writingslinford/blue/21.html">Hey You</a>&rsquo; by Linford Detweiler of <a href="http://www.overtherhine.com/">Over the Rhine</a> that I posted to a publicly viewable church bulletin board back in 2001 &#8212; an action that played a part in the chain of events that I call &lsquo;the wooing <a href="http://thispile.com/">my beautiful wife Jen</a>&rsquo;.</p>

<p>Text is below &#8212; it&rsquo;s got a luxurious use of F-bombs &#8212; you&rsquo;ve been warned &#8212; now take a quick read while nobody&rsquo;s looking.</p>

<blockquote><strong>Hey You</strong><br />
by Linford Detweiler<br />
<br />
Fuck me, she says,<br />
And it&#8217;s not an exclamation<br />
It&#8217;s a plea<br />
<br />
Fuck me feels different<br />
In the marriage bed<br />
It&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s forbidden<br />
<br />
Fuck can be such a hateful word<br />
But she&#8217;s in love<br />
Trying on the name wife for size<br />
<br />
Fuck me sort of suits her<br />
She loves to laugh<br />
And she wants something carefree and crude<br />
<br />
Fuck me and all of a sudden it&#8217;s a playful prayer<br />
We both still want to do something good for the world<br />
We both believe in miracles<br />
<br />
Fuck me and there are better words for it<br />
We both know<br />
But the way she says it makes you wonder<br />
<br />
Fuck me please I&#8217;m soppy and smooth<br />
The world is disappearing<br />
And it&#8217;s not so much the please it&#8217;s the possibility:<br />
<br />
It&#8217;s the possibility<br />
That this life is going to break us into pieces<br />
Knock us reeling and silly with painful joy<br />
<br />
And the word fuck is suddenly a tiny praise chorus<br />
A slap happy swing at a tipsy God<br />
The joke&#8217;s on us<br />
<br />
And this is our sweet redeemer<br />
Looking down on a tangle of man and wife<br />
A happily shipwrecked bed<br />
<br />
It&#8217;s not like he hasn&#8217;t seen it before<br />
But he&#8217;s even blessed a dirty word<br />
Thank you Lord<br />
<br />
. . .<br />
copyright 2000, Linford Detweiler</blockquote>
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